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gnome-themes-list Digest, Vol 76, Issue 4

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: GNOME 3.0 official logo and banners (Frederic Muller)
2. Cross symbol in the security-high icon (GNOME BZ #634940)
(M?ir?n Duffy)
3. Re: Cross symbol in the security-high icon (GNOME BZ #634940)
(Nathan Lane)
4. Re: Cross symbol in the security-high icon (GNOME BZ #634940)
(Calum Benson)
5. Re: GNOME 3.0 official logo and banners (Pockey Lam)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 18:23:49 +0800
From: Frederic Muller <fredm@gnome.org>
To: marketing-list@gnome.org
Cc: gnome-themes-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: GNOME 3.0 official logo and banners
Message-ID: <4CE10A35.2070308@gnome.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

On 11/15/2010 05:38 PM, Juanjo Mar?n wrote:
>
>
> --- El *lun, 15/11/10, Pockey Lam /<pockeylam@gnome.org>/* escribi?:
>
>
> De: Pockey Lam <pockeylam@gnome.org>
> Asunto: Re: GNOME 3.0 official logo and banners
> Para: marketing-list@gnome.org
> Fecha: lunes, 15 de noviembre, 2010 10:11
>
> On 11/15/2010 04:45 PM, Juanjo Mar?n wrote:
>> There are some requests in
>> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/ArtRequests/ but they are maked as
>> "open".
>>
>> There are some suggestions for this material though,
>> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/ArtRequests/GNOME3Logo
>> but it isn't definitive at all.
>>
> Thanks for pointing out those useful info to me!
>
> There are indeed a lot of good ideas already. To match with GNOME
> 3.0, I like Campaign #1
> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeThreeBrainstorming/MarketingCampaign1
> (Campaign: Fundamentally Different)
>
> and this logo
> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/ArtRequests/GNOME3Logo?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=Gnome3Logo.png
> <http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/ArtRequests/GNOME3Logo?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=Gnome3Logo.png>
>
>
>
>>
>> I guess the marketing team should approach the art team for get
>> this done :)
>> We can discuss a little bit about the message we want on this
>> banners. What the team think ?
>>
> As we have been starting to talk to different communities all over
> the world to promote GNOME 3.0 and ask them to host a launch party
> locally, yeah, let's discuss now so we can give them logos and
> banners to post at their websites and link back to our gnome 3.0 page.
>
> Besides, I searched facebook page and there is no gnome 3.0 group
> yet but found a 1 member group named I hate GNOME 3.0 we need a new
> desktop environment for linux , so I just started one:
> http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_141747095876340&ap=1
> <http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_141747095876340&ap=1>
>
> (I am not really a fans of facebook but we cannot ignore social
> network power for marketing...)
>
>
> I wonder if makes sense to create some banners with screenshots of
> gnome-shell. Ubuntu has this kind of banners for Unity.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=7235424%40N02&q=unity+banners&m=text
>
> We should start the competition at marketing level ;)
>

Well I guess we should start asking people to put banners to their blogs
and present at their local Linux User Groups. GNOME Shell is pretty
stable at the moment (well my experience, ymmv). Having people starting
to explain the differences, showcase and explain how to install from git
all over the world right now would be nice and helpful to start building
critical mass for release date and target a less geeky audience.
Fred


> Cheers,
>
> -- Juanjo Marin
>
> PS: I CC this message to the art team list
>
>

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 16:01:39 -0500
From: M?ir?n Duffy <duffy@fedoraproject.org>
To: gnome-themes-list@gnome.org
Subject: Cross symbol in the security-high icon (GNOME BZ #634940)
Message-ID: <1289854899.18266.34.camel@Brigid>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hi folks,

First of all, allow me to apologize if this isn't the appropriate list
for this topic; I was debating between this list and the tango-artists
list, but since this concerns a gnome-icon-theme issue I thought this
list might be more appropriate.

That being said, in Fedora we recently received a complaint about the
security-high icon (attached for convenient reference.) The complaint
regarded the use of the Christian cross symbol in the upper/center
region of the icon.

I filed the bug in GNOME bugzilla under gnome-icon-theme here:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=634940

Is this the appropriate way to handle the bug do you think? Let me know
what you think. As I mentioned in the bug, I'm happy to modify the icon
if needed (I'm thinking maybe instead of a cross, use a cloverleaf
design?)

~m
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 17:36:24 -0700
From: Nathan Lane <nathamberlane@gmail.com>
To: M?ir?n Duffy <duffy@fedoraproject.org>
Cc: gnome-themes-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: Cross symbol in the security-high icon (GNOME BZ #634940)
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Alright, first let me preface with I am not any kind of authority for GNOME
or GNOME themes. I'm more or less just a list listener. And now to be plain,
this does not seem like an issue, as anybody may change any icon on their
system at any time. How is this a defect? No flames please, I am really
asking the question. Perhaps you could forward the original complaint to the
list. Or it may not be necessary as you've already filed a defect in
Bugzilla.

Thanks.

Nathan

2010/11/15 M?ir?n Duffy <duffy@fedoraproject.org>

> Hi folks,
>
> First of all, allow me to apologize if this isn't the appropriate list
> for this topic; I was debating between this list and the tango-artists
> list, but since this concerns a gnome-icon-theme issue I thought this
> list might be more appropriate.
>
> That being said, in Fedora we recently received a complaint about the
> security-high icon (attached for convenient reference.) The complaint
> regarded the use of the Christian cross symbol in the upper/center
> region of the icon.
>
> I filed the bug in GNOME bugzilla under gnome-icon-theme here:
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=634940
>
> Is this the appropriate way to handle the bug do you think? Let me know
> what you think. As I mentioned in the bug, I'm happy to modify the icon
> if needed (I'm thinking maybe instead of a cross, use a cloverleaf
> design?)
>
> ~m
>
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 11:10:55 +0000
From: Calum Benson <calum.benson@oracle.com>
To: Gnome Themes <gnome-themes-list@gnome.org>
Subject: Re: Cross symbol in the security-high icon (GNOME BZ #634940)
Message-ID: <C750DDDC-FAE4-42A3-91C1-52D851B6736D@oracle.com>
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On 16 Nov 2010, at 00:36, Nathan Lane wrote:

> Alright, first let me preface with I am not any kind of authority for GNOME
> or GNOME themes. I'm more or less just a list listener. And now to be plain,
> this does not seem like an issue, as anybody may change any icon on their
> system at any time.

Yes they can, but they shouldn't have to. What they see out-of-the-box is not their choice, so it behoves us to ensure that none of our default language or imagery can be construed as offensive to anyone on the grounds of race, gender, religion, or anything else for that matter. (For anyone who's been around long enough, cf. the prolonged debate about using national flags to depict locales...)

Cheeri,
Calum.

--
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mailto:calum.benson@oracle.com Solaris Desktop Team
http://blogs.sun.com/calum +353 1 819 9771

Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Oracle Corp.

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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:59:29 +0800
From: Pockey Lam <pockeylam@gnome.org>
To: marketing-list@gnome.org, gnome-themes-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: GNOME 3.0 official logo and banners
Message-ID: <4CE26411.9070107@gnome.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed"


>
> I wonder if makes sense to create some banners with screenshots of
> gnome-shell. Ubuntu has this kind of banners for Unity.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=7235424%40N02&q=unity+banners&m=text
>
> We should start the competion at marketing level ;)
>
> Cheers,
>
> -- Juanjo Marin
>
> PS: I CC this message to the art team list
>
>
Since we already have options / proposals of GNOME 3.0 logos / banners,
should we initiate a marketing / art team irc meeting to vote / finalize
which GNOME 3.0 logo / messages to use and talk about banners as well?

Pockey

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